Hi Jose, It was meant to be in good fun. I was wondering why you were asking Ham about his Mama. Mark
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Joseph Maurer <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Mark, > > The diatribe against "Yo mama" speaks to me in rough words. I did not know > I was supposed to take sides in this discussion. > > Joe > > > On 5/25/11 5:11 PM, "118" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Well Joe, >> >> I can't speak for Ham's mother, but I do know that Yo mama so nasty >> she made speed stick slow down. No, what I mean to say is Yo mama >> twice the man you are. Actually, Yo mama house so small you have to >> go outside to change your mind. >> >> Do you feel that Yo mama so old she was a waitress at the Last Supper, >> or just that when she farted dust came out? >> >> Mark >> >> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Joseph Maurer <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hi Ham and all, >>> >>> As I read your post impulses comes to the fore. I agree you can't envision >>> an "emotional level" since there is no meaning in being a happy person since >>> it demands a response to indefinable Joy. Do you feel your mother was >>> inferior to you or just has no meaning in a universe? >>> >>> Joe >>> >>> On 5/24/11 9:25 PM, "Ham Priday" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On Tues, May 24, 2011 5:02 PM, "Joseph Maurer" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Ham and all, >>>>> >>>>> Try to envision an emotional level in which the individual is indefinable >>>>> (no terms capture the reality of individuality since it is indefinable). >>>>> Once that vision is secure Posit a definable 1. This is how I see >>>>> evolution from an indefinable DQ emotional level to a definable SQ >>>>> intellectual level. The emotional level DQ defines 1 and evolution >>>>> carries this 1 to an SQ Intellectual level which creates mathematical >>>>> logic. >>>> >>>> I can't envision an "emotional level", as it has no meaning for me. >>>> Emotions are what we feel in response to experience. It may be joy, >>>> sadness, frustration, anxiety, doubt, love, hate, or desire. Do we need a >>>> "level" for each of these feelings? Is there a "pain level" and a >>>> "distress >>>> level", as well as a feelings level? There is no logic for this euphemism, >>>> since feelings are simply the state of individual awareness at a given >>>> time, >>>> just as intellection is the process of thinking rationally. >>>> >>>> You say individuality is indefinable. Why can it not be defined simply as >>>> "the unit of awareness" whereby one identifies his knowing self? Indeed, >>>> inasmuch as this is self-evident, why do we even need a definition? >>>> >>>> Your problem, Joe, is that you refuse to acknowledge "selfness"--the very >>>> core of your existental reality. And, if you have no self, you can't be a >>>> free agent, let alone lay claim to a life experience of your own. (Marsha >>>> has somewhat the same problem). >>>> >>>> Furthermore, when you build your ontology on evolution (i.e., process in >>>> time), you put the cart in front of the horse when it comes to the Source. >>>> For if evolution "carries nature" from the lowest to the highest levels, >>>> your Source comes at the end of this entire progression! How do you >>>> explain >>>> a Creator coming onto the scene after all its creation is finished? How >>>> logical is that scenario, Joe? >>>> >>>> Later, you added: "For me, evolution speaks to higher or lower values." >>>> Evolution evidently "speaks to you" also, though at what particular level I >>>> haven't the slightest idea. Until you realize that it is the individual >>>> who >>>> determines what is of value, and to what degree or measure, you will never >>>> appreciate the sensibility you've been granted as a human being. >>>> >>>> I can understand why metaphysical prepositions are sometimes regarded as >>>> illogical. But I find it incredulous that an intelligent person such as >>>> yourself can be persuaded that an "emotional level" defines unity. It >>>> makes >>>> me wonder what you would make of epistemology. >>>> >>>> Thanks for a fascinating glimpse into the workings of your mind, >>>> Ham >>>> >>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>> Archives: >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>> >>> >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
