Arlo quoted Northrop's "The Meeting of East and West": ... "The true relation between intuitive, aesthetic, and religious feeling and scientific doctrine is one of mutual supplementation."
dmb says: I'm enjoying these passages, Arlo. Thanks. There is a passage in ZAMM wherein Pirsig tells us that the classic-romantic distinction is directly taken from Northrop's distinction between the theoretic and the aesthetic dimensions. And as we see in Northrop's pithy line, the overall idea is to acknowledge the importance of both, to exclude neither. As the central metaphor suggests, the artful mechanic brings both sides to the task. Orpheus was a Dionysian reformer. He loved the wild side. His mother was one of the nine Muses and he fell in love with a wood nymph (Hippie chick) but he was also the son of Apollo, the god of light and order. His instrument, the lyre, is geometrically and mathematically constructed and yet the rivers, trees and wild animals are just as enchanted by his music as is the human heart. So Pirsig - I mean, Orpheus - represents a fusion of the Apollonian and the Dionysian spirits. Dynamic Quality and static quality together. That's when you're firing on all cylinders. Ron: Exactly Dave, a nice conclusion drawn by the way, it is also interesting to note that his death was the result of denouncing Dionysis and all gods for Apollo in one account, in another, struck down by Zues for revealing the seceret of the gods in another. But for purposes of rhetorical arguement and the art of persuasion Arlo's nod toward Plato's Phaedrus seems to really capture the intent of Pirsigs drive toward expansion of reason. The tales of Orpheus, their significance and symbolism would be a superb thread to discuss. thanks guys, made my morning. ......................................................... Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
