On May 29, 2011, at 9:10 AM, X Acto wrote: > > > > Marsha: > > > Please note Alan Wallace in the first quote states that reification is a > central > issue in Buddhism: > > > > "There are different domains of relativity ... Such truths are contingent > upon > perspective. This routes us back to a central issue of Buddhism: > reification. > Reification is taking something that is true relative to ourselves and > believing > it to be true independently of ourselves." > (Wallace, B. Alan, Buddhism with an Attitude, p.138) > > > "Even when the mind is settled in meditative stabilization without human > conceptual constructs, it is not considered by Buddhist contemplatives to be > entirely free of all traces of conceptualization. One's inborn sense of a > reified self as the observer and the reified sense of the duality between > subject and object are still present, even though they may be dormant while > in > meditation; and when one emerges from this nonconceptual state, the mind may > still grasp onto all phenomena, including consciousness itself, as being > real, > inherently existing entities. To penetrate to the fundamental nature of > appearances and their relation to consciousness, it is said that one must go > beyond meditative stabilization and engage in training for the cultivation of > contemplative insight." > > (Wallace, B. Alan, 'The Taboo of Subjectivity: Towards a New Science of > Consciousness', p.112) > > > > Ron: > While this quote does prove that Wallace does contend that reification is > the S/O distinction he also says that meditation does not solve the > problem
-------------------- > the "cultivation of contemplative insight" is the realization that > reification is simply an assumed intellectual point of view. Ron, Your paraphrasing is too creative and false for my taste. Nowhere does Wallace claim reification is simply an assumed intellectual point-of-view. It may be, but Wallace does not make such a statement. Marsha > > ================================================== > > > > > > > ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
