Hi Dan, Thank you for your hard work and devotion to this metaphysics. Mark
Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2011, at 9:11 PM, Dan Glover <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello everyone > > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 11:46 AM, david buchanan <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> Bo said to dmb: >> So, it's my assertion that the MOQ's DQ/SQ is how reality is which is the >> grievance (and what reification means)? However it is was Phaedrus' mission >> to replace the S/O monster that has been (Western Culture's) scourge for so >> long and had kept us under its S/O spell and closed us off from the real >> objective experience. Sentenced us to eternal imprisonment within our >> subjective max-security jail. And does DMB in ernest think that the MOQ is >> a mere reiteration of SOM? That its DQ/SQ arrangement is just another >> abstraction of concrete reality? Huh? Wasn't it Pirsig who set out to give >> the Western Culture reality back? ...[insults deleted] >> >> >> dmb says: >> Apologies to Horse for dragging Bo's words into this forum. The quote from >> Bo is such a neat piece of evidence that I couldn't resist. Sorry and I >> promise not to make a habit of it. >> MOQers, please notice that Bo really does not understand what reification >> means and instead of addressing the objection I've posed, he simply >> re-asserts the same error. The MOQ's static-Dynamic distinction is not just >> an abstract idea, it's how reality is, he says. If the DQ/sq split is just >> another abstraction, he says, then the MOQ is a mere reiteration of SOM. In >> several different ways, Bo quite adamantly asserts that the MOQ is the food >> and not the menu. This is what reification means. Of course this is exactly >> the opposite of what Pirsig actually says and so Bo has to insult the >> author, which I deleted, and dismiss his second book, which is the more >> philosophically serious book.... > > Hi David, Marsha, Bo (if you're listening), > > I've just completed re-doing the e-version of LILA'S CHILD... cleaning > up the html and fixing some mistakes... and it was such a joy to read > Bodvar's old posts again from the early days of the Lila Squad. He > really had some amazing insights to share with the group; it's truly a > shame he got stuck in the SOM as Quality's intellect gumption trap > like he did. He used to be one of the MOQ's biggest defenders. > > What happened? > > I don't know. > > I've never understood what Marsha has been on about with her > reification, either. It always seemed like a thinly-veiled attempt at > re-introducing SOM as intellect, and why anyone would want to > perpetuate such a ludicrous notion is beyond me. I don't have an > academic degree nor am I likely to any time soon, but I do know what > Quality is, and that isn't it. > > Anyhow, the updated version of LILA'S CHILD is available on Amazon.com > now if anyone is interested. > > Thank you, > > Dan > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
