Hi Craig, On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 6:08 PM, <craig...@comcast.net> wrote: > [Steve] >> You are not free to value smoking over your >> health if you actually value your health more than smoking.
Craig: > Yes you can, it's called changing your mind. Steve: No doubt people change their minds. But are they _free_ to change their minds, or do their minds change because of forces beyond their control or for reasons that can't be explained? Craig: > Also you are free to choose short-term pleasures (smoking) over > long-term interests (health), even if you value the latter over the > former. Steve: Granted. > [Steve] >> "Man cannot will what we wants..." > > [Craig] > But a person can decide what s/he wants. Steve: Ok, but one again beside the point. Does a person freely will him/herself to want or not want something or is what they want determined by forces beyond their control or for reasons that can't be explained? You assert that we are free to act upon our values, but I read the MOQ to be saying that someone can't help but to act upon his values. In fact all a person is is a bunch of values, so it is even wrong to say that they are _his_ values. Lila doesn't have Quality, Quality has Lila. Best, Steve Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
