dmb says:
Hey Steve, here is one example wherein I complained about your tactics
precisely because they spoiled any chance of having a real conversation. I
accused you of inventing the omniscient super-being, the one that supposedly
keeps me and James awake at night. (James hasn't had any concerns for over a
hundred years, of course.) If you make stuff up instead of disagreeing with the
things I actually said, then isn't fair to say your tactics have spoiled the
conversation? I think it's more than fair.
As you can probably see, I'm only pressing this point again because Marsha
re-posted these earlier complaints. How you get irony out of this is a mystery
to me because I think it clearly shows that my complaints are valid and that
your tactics are bogus. Your comments can only be justified if you have a
legitimate reason to believe that I was pressing an omniscient super-being. I'm
sure you have no evidence of that because there isn't any evidence of that. And
so it's more than fair to say you're making stuff up and then attributing it to
me. And since that's the case, who is the offended party?
It's like you want me to apologize for saying "ouch" too loudly when you
stepped on my foot.
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> On Jun 23, 2011, at 12:22 PM, david buchanan wrote:
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> > Steve said to Matt:
> > Then there is the issue of _pre_determination which I think is only a
> > concern if you imagine an omniscient super-being, but it still manages to
> > keep James and dmb awake at night.
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> > dmb says:
> > James and I are imagining an omniscient super-being? Huh?
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> > I don't expect all that much from you, Steve, but I didn't think you'd
> > stoop so low. My main argument has been that freedom and constraint are
> > both real because both are known in experience. Super-beings, whatever
> > that's supposed to mean, don't have anything to do with it. I would accuse
> > you of misconstruing my position but that would be too generous. You're
> > just making stuff up, probably to avoid the burden of addressing the actual
> > argument.
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