On Jun 27, 2011, at 4:02 PM, Joseph Maurer wrote: > > > > On 6/26/11 9:55 PM, "Ham Priday" <hampd...@verizon.net> wrote: > > <snip> >> How can free will exist without an independent agent? >> How can we be morally responsible if our values (and consequent actions) are >> predetermined? >> >> Experiential existence hinges on autonomous value-sensibility. It makes no >> sense to argue for or against free will unless you acknowledge that choice >> is the option of a free agent. >> >> Valuistically speaking, >> Ham > > Hi Ham and all, > > Pirsig proposes a metaphysics of DQ/SQ. DQ is indefinable not unknowable. > The independent agent is DQ/SQ. There is something in our actions that > enable the indefinable. Free will enables action and an evolutionary > scenario limits free will. I can't jump on my horse and ride off in all > directions! Predetermination denies a DQ/SQ metaphysics. I know the > indefinable and can act on it through analogy and metaphor. > > Joe
Hi Joe, You mentioned jumping on a horse and riding off in all directions, what type of pattern would that be? Marsha ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
