dmb said to Dan > > [Pirsig] discovered for himself the oldest truth in the world. "The physical > order of the universe is also the moral order of the universe. RTA is both. > This was exactly what the MOQ was claiming. It was not a new idea. It was the > oldest idea known to man." (Lila, 382) The perennial philosophy is perennial, > Pirsig says, because it happens to be true. In other words, people discover > this same thing over and over again ...
and later > > ... As the Stanford Encyclopedia article explains, "James's fundamental idea > is that mind and matter are both aspects of, or structures formed from, a > more fundamental stuff — pure experience — that is neither mental nor > physical. Pure experience, James explains, is “the immediate flux of life > which furnishes the material to our LATER reflection with its conceptual > categories…" ... [Pirsig] discovered their sympatico only after the fact, > after ZAMM had already been published. They arrived at the same conclusions > independently and that, I think, is remarkable. [My emphasis on dmb's / Pirsig's / James' LATER] I completely agree with that take dmb. The only sense in which it might be unremarkable is that as you say earlier it seems to be the oldest truth in the world they / we are agreeing on. Part of the reason why I oft express frustration that we (MD in general) still seem to be debating it. Ian What's so funny 'bout peace, love and understanding ? Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
