Hi John,
Welcome back to good ol' CA.

On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 8:58 AM, John Carl <[email protected]> wrote:

> Doubt is the cloud that is needed as a background for love's rainbow.
>
> Even so  in the world of abstract thought.  The more serious faiths of
> humanity can only be won, if at all, by virtue of much doubting.  The divine
> truth   (DQ) is essentially coy.  You woo her, you toil for her, you reflect
> upon her by night and by day, you search through books, study nature, make
> experiments, dissect brains, hold learned disputations, take counsel o the
> wise; in fine, your prepare your own ripest thought, and lay it before your
> heavenly mistress when you have done your best.  Will she be pleased? Will
> she reward you with a glance of approval?  Will she say, Thou has well
> spoken concerning me?

[Mark]
I have taken the other approach pretty successfully; that of Belief.
Being trained as a modern scientist, my only belief was that of
empirical verification, nothing else existed.  I did not doubt that
something else existed, I just never gave it much thought.  Then due
to a series of crisis, my whole world opened up.  I realized that
there was much more than could be measured.  I found that for every
measurable thing there were many, many more which could not be.  I
figured out how to use these things to make me and my family happy.

I still do not think much about God or that kind of thing, but my
world has become very magical.  I can see synchronicity in things and
have learned to read some signs.  I am beginning to travel beyond
belief, into Faith (again, not in a religious sense).  On rereading
some of the books by Kierkegaard, I now understand the third circle.
It doesn't have to be some big bearded guy in the sky.  All it has to
be is everything.  I am now connected and quite content.  I find there
are 1,000 times more things within than without.  This of course makes
sense since we project that which lies outside, and we are far from
being complete with that.

Still, sense or no sense, it was quite an eye opener for me.  I now
live life much more fully.  I have started taking flying lessons which
will allow me to see even more of the heavens.

Cheers,
Mark
>
>
> Who can tell?  Her eyes have their own beautiful fashion of looking far off
> when you want them to be turned upon you; and, after all, perhaps she
> prefers other suitors for her favor.  The knowledge that she is of
> sufficiently exalted dignity to be indifferent to you, if she chooses, is
> what constitutes the mood known as philosophical skepticism.  It is not
> then, a deadening and weakening mood;  it is the very soul of philosophical
> earnestness (caring).
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