p.s.  There may also come a time when citizens may need to change the laws.  
Especially when politicians have become criminals.  
 
 
 
On Aug 8, 2011, at 1:58 PM, MarshaV wrote:

> 
> J-A,
> 
> I think that RMP says somewhere that until you become a mystic, you had 
> better follow the laws.  That makes sense to me.  Break the law and you will 
> probably be punished.  But I also think if you understand Quality, you are 
> less likely to cause the kind of harm that will put you behind bars.  Why?  
> Because you will be more aware of betterment.  
> 
> 
> Marsha 
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 8, 2011, at 12:47 PM, Jan-Anders Andersson wrote:
> 
>> Hi Marsha
>> 
>> Is it possible to put personal responsiblílity upon a rock being a rock?
>> Can you blame a squid for being a squid?
>> Are the people on the Andaman Islands guilty for their culture?
>> 
>> A person equal to the occasion with personal free will has his moral value 
>> concepts for what is right and wrong in his view but a kid that doesn't know 
>> all yet and is doing just what it is told can't be held responsible in the 
>> same way. Thats the difference between adults and infants. 
>> 
>> We are free to build our own personality or not. An adult individual is 
>> supposed to use his mental freedom. We are responsible for the moral we 
>> freely build by ourselves. We are responsible for the values that we freely 
>> can change by our own mind. Our moral values are our only property and 
>> nobody elses business unless we don't harm anyone else.
>> 
>> Moral values that is not our own is not connected with free will. We can for 
>> example not be held responsible for race, color or sexual values. 
>> 
>> I can see that there is an interest by those who try to make us believe that 
>> there is no difference here wants us back to the sheep state so they can 
>> play the leaders. But why should we trust people that deny responsibility?
>> 
>> Now I'm going to take a ride on my new horse. I got her cheap because they 
>> said she's nervous but I think she can dance. 
>> 
>> That's dynamic.
>> 
>> Hoopla!
>> 
>> Jan-Anders
>> 
>> 
>> 8 aug 2011 kl. 17.31 MarshaV wrote:
>> 
>>> The MoQ offers a four-tiered, evolutionary, hierarchical structure as a 
>>> moral framework.  In what way does this translate into a logical and 
>>> necessary relationship between an agent with free will and moral 
>>> responsibility?   
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 8, 2011, at 10:57 AM, MarshaV wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Is there a difference between the law holding someone responsible & 
>>>> protecting citizens from further harm and a individual being "morally 
>>>> responsible"?  Just a question...  
>>>> 
>>> 
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