DMB said: Matt: You'll be glad to see that I have taken up only a very small, managable portion.
Matt: Yeah, but as you often complain of me, you've ignored my substantive portions for the methodological portions. DMB said: You're missing the point. I've gathered the descriptions of various philosophers as a means of carefully reflecting on the meaning of the central term. It's a comparative analysis of the central term. Matt: I didn't take up any terms to reject them--you missed _my_ point when I tried to delineated what it was limited to. DMB said: But that means that you've very recently given up a hobby that you had for ten years. Matt: I think you've been reading me very poorly for a little while then, because my shift happened some time ago. Perhaps you're confusing assertion that Pirsig _is_ a Platonist or whatever (indeed, if ever I actually did, which I'm not sure I'd concede) with attempting to understand how a piece of philosophy is or is not caught up in certain kinds of assumptions and consequences. Call that disingenuous if you want, but it's a sensitivity I wished you had. I haven't stated a case about Pirsig in _years_. I have tried to modulate my performances to reflect the nature of my ability, command of the subject, and skin in the game. I can't help it if you're haunted by the past. DMB said: Your accusations of Platonism are my main motivation in trying to explain DQ. Matt: That makes a lot of sense about how you misread me, and Steve, too. Your style of apprehension is like that of Elizabethan era Courtier Politics: you see subterfuge, betrayal, treason, and deceptive promises everywhere. But this isn't a game of getting people unwittingly over to your side before revealing how they've been duped into abdicating the True Way. This is philosophical inquiry, where people who agree with me for the wrong reasons, or for reasons they don't understand, or cannot state, make me as wary as people I disagree with: philosophy is about self-conscious understanding. I know you agree, yet you treat me as a poisoner of wells, which assumes that I _do not_ move forth with an open, inquiring and sincere mind. And it's impossible to mutually inquire with a person who thinks that of you, or with a person you think that of. Why didn't you take up the bits where I tried to help you understand what I _was_ saying about Pirsig? Matt Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
