dmb said to Matt:
...But that means that you've very recently given up a hobby [accusing Pirsig
of Platonism] that you had for ten years.
Matt replied:
I think you've been reading me very poorly for a little while then, because my
shift happened some time ago. Perhaps you're confusing assertion that Pirsig
_is_ a Platonist or whatever (indeed, if ever I actually did, which I'm not
sure I'd concede) with attempting to understand how a piece of philosophy is or
is not caught up in certain kinds of assumptions and consequences. Call that
disingenuous if you want, but it's a sensitivity I wished you had. I haven't
stated a case about Pirsig in _years_. ..That makes a lot of sense about how
you misread me, and Steve, too. Your style of apprehension is like that of
Elizabethan era Courtier Politics: you see subterfuge, betrayal, treason, and
deceptive promises everywhere. ...
dmb says:
You are protesting way too much. I don't know what "some time ago" means to
you, but I can show you an example of what I'm complaining about, one that you
posted this month and in this thread. You said to Steve, "I've always had
difficulty seeing how the direct/indirect distinction doesn't reproduce the
problems of the experience/reality distinction. " This is not a direct claim
that the DQ/sq distinction simply is Platonism. It's more cautious and
tentative than that, but it amounts to the same thing. And there are other
recent examples. Maybe you don't call that a "stated case" and maybe you don't
equate the appearance/reality distinction with Platonism, but this is what I'm
talking about. You said that to Steve in this same thread about two weeks ago.
I really don't think it's paranoid to see deception here. It's not crazy to
suspect that you're being less than honest. At the very least, you have to
admit that the gap between your claim and the actual record raises certain
questions.
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