On Oct 25, 2011, at 11:40 AM, david buchanan wrote:

> dmb says:
> Pragmatists like yourself are basically just relativists. Pragmatists like 
> Pirsig and James both emphasize the centrality of human purposes but 
> agreement with experience is every bit as crucial to their conception of 
> pragmatic truth.

Marsha:
But there is a difference between James and RMP.   With James there is no way 
to differentiate between social purposes and intellectual purposes and as RMP 
has stated "they were monstrously confused" and the Nazis could justify the 
holocaust as producing satisfaction.  The MoQ, on the other hand, distinguishes 
social purposes, such as practicality, from intellectual purposes, and make it 
immoral for lower-level social patterns to subordinate intellectual patterns.  
You remember, dmb, RMP stating how "James would probably be horrified to find 
the Nazis could use his pragmatism as freely as everyone else."  
 


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