Oh great exalted, judgmental opinionator,

Thanks for sharing. 


Marsha 



On Nov 10, 2011, at 1:30 PM, 118 wrote:

> Hi Marsha,
> I would put it another way.  Non-locality is a statistical concept of
> matter, and while Quality could be said to have properties of such
> statistics, it is not non-local.  In my opinion, it is about as local
> as something can get, that is, one's personal relationship to the
> cosmos.  By abstracting Quality, one confines it.  To experience
> Quality, one embodies it.  Instead of putting Quality out there, put
> it in here.
> 
> I do not quite understand your application of nonlocality to sunshine
> and storm, but it sounds interesting.  Like something I would say...
> 
> Patterns present themselves due to Quality.  Patterns imply the mixing
> of independent sources, at least in a dualistic (or pluralistic
> world).  A monistic world is determinism and I have no intuitive use
> for that.  Dependent arising cannot exist alone, it is dependent on
> two things plus the nature of their interaction.  It has a source, and
> that is Quality.  Quality is independent; it is the unmoved mover, or
> the first cause, or the ground of being, or the essence of a flame.
> From the one come the two; from the two come the three; from the three
> come all things (just an analogy, of course).  The three are
> independent so as to create patterns that depend on them, otherwise
> patterns would not exist.  The Yin, the Yang, and the power of
> interaction.  Dynamic Quality, static Quality, and Interactive
> Quality.    This seems to me to be the way that reason can approach
> it.  If we say that Quality interacts with itself (which is another
> approach), the notion of patterns cannot exist.  All we can do is
> interpret the signs, like making constellations out of the stars.
> Outside of reason, It is This not That.  Or, as Peter Gabriel wrote in
> "It" (The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, Genesis 1974)
> 
> When it's cold, it comes slow.
> it is warm, just watch it grow.
> -all around me.
> it is here. it is now.
> 
> Just a little bit of it can bring you up or down.
> Like the supper it is cooking in your hometown.
> it is chicken, it is eggs,
> it is in between your legs.
> it is walking on the moon,
> leaving your cocoon.
> 
> it is the jigsa, it is purple haze.
> it never stays in one place, but it's not a passing phase,
> it is in the single's bar, in the distance of the face,
> it is in between the cages, it is always in a space
> it is here. it is now.
> 
> Any rock can be made to roll,
> If you've enough of it to pay the toll.
> it has no home in words or goal,
> Not even in your favourite hole.
> it is the hope for the dope.
> When you ride the horse without a hoof.
> it is shaken, not stirred;
> Cocktails on the roof.
> 
> When you eat right through it you see everything alive,
> it is inside spirit, with enough grit to survive
> If you think it's pretentious, you've been taken for a ride.
> Look across the mirror, before you chose decide
> it is here. it is now
> 
> Thanks,
> Mark
> 
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 12:31 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Quality may be compared to quantum physics's nonlocality.  Static quality 
>> exists in stable patterns relative to other patterns.  Patterns have no 
>> independent existence;
>> 
>>        the nonlocality between sunshine and storm
>> 


 
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