I have you to thank for your original opinion in this thread. Thanks for sharing your views.
Mark On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 10:36 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > Oh great exalted, judgmental opinionator, > > Thanks for sharing. > > > Marsha > > > > On Nov 10, 2011, at 1:30 PM, 118 wrote: > >> Hi Marsha, >> I would put it another way. Non-locality is a statistical concept of >> matter, and while Quality could be said to have properties of such >> statistics, it is not non-local. In my opinion, it is about as local >> as something can get, that is, one's personal relationship to the >> cosmos. By abstracting Quality, one confines it. To experience >> Quality, one embodies it. Instead of putting Quality out there, put >> it in here. >> >> I do not quite understand your application of nonlocality to sunshine >> and storm, but it sounds interesting. Like something I would say... >> >> Patterns present themselves due to Quality. Patterns imply the mixing >> of independent sources, at least in a dualistic (or pluralistic >> world). A monistic world is determinism and I have no intuitive use >> for that. Dependent arising cannot exist alone, it is dependent on >> two things plus the nature of their interaction. It has a source, and >> that is Quality. Quality is independent; it is the unmoved mover, or >> the first cause, or the ground of being, or the essence of a flame. >> From the one come the two; from the two come the three; from the three >> come all things (just an analogy, of course). The three are >> independent so as to create patterns that depend on them, otherwise >> patterns would not exist. The Yin, the Yang, and the power of >> interaction. Dynamic Quality, static Quality, and Interactive >> Quality. This seems to me to be the way that reason can approach >> it. If we say that Quality interacts with itself (which is another >> approach), the notion of patterns cannot exist. All we can do is >> interpret the signs, like making constellations out of the stars. >> Outside of reason, It is This not That. Or, as Peter Gabriel wrote in >> "It" (The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, Genesis 1974) >> >> When it's cold, it comes slow. >> it is warm, just watch it grow. >> -all around me. >> it is here. it is now. >> >> Just a little bit of it can bring you up or down. >> Like the supper it is cooking in your hometown. >> it is chicken, it is eggs, >> it is in between your legs. >> it is walking on the moon, >> leaving your cocoon. >> >> it is the jigsa, it is purple haze. >> it never stays in one place, but it's not a passing phase, >> it is in the single's bar, in the distance of the face, >> it is in between the cages, it is always in a space >> it is here. it is now. >> >> Any rock can be made to roll, >> If you've enough of it to pay the toll. >> it has no home in words or goal, >> Not even in your favourite hole. >> it is the hope for the dope. >> When you ride the horse without a hoof. >> it is shaken, not stirred; >> Cocktails on the roof. >> >> When you eat right through it you see everything alive, >> it is inside spirit, with enough grit to survive >> If you think it's pretentious, you've been taken for a ride. >> Look across the mirror, before you chose decide >> it is here. it is now >> >> Thanks, >> Mark >> >> On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 12:31 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Quality may be compared to quantum physics's nonlocality. Static quality >>> exists in stable patterns relative to other patterns. Patterns have no >>> independent existence; >>> >>> the nonlocality between sunshine and storm >>> > > > > ___ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
