Hi dmb, 

On Nov 20, 2011, at 5:16 PM, david buchanan wrote:

> 
> Marsha:
>> For the sake of "taking words seriously' please present an exact  definition 
>> of 'relativism' as you are using it.   
>> 
>> 
>> dmb answered in a nutshell:
>> Relativism is the view that truth is relative to the culture or the 
>> individual, that there is no way to say that one truth is better than 
>> another.
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha:
>> By the way, dmb, your definition is begging the question, as it assumes the 
>> answer to the question being posed: that there is no way to say that one 
>> truth is better than another.   
> 
> 
> 
> dmb says:
> Huh? If the question asks for my definition how can my definition beg the 
> question? And how do you figure that an explicitly stated position could 
> count as an assumption? Your objections are pure nonsense. As usual.
> 
> I gave you the definition you asked for and I showed you exactly how and 
> where Pirsig uses the word in a way that fits that definition. Since the 
> issue is whether or not Pirsig is a relativist, what could be more relevant 
> and appropriate? If that's not good enough for you, then you're just not a 
> reasonable person. Maybe you should ask somebody else. Five minutes with you 
> is way more than plenty.        


Marsha:
When your premise is contained in the primary definition, that is 'begging the 
question'.  Would you cite the source of your definition?  



Marsha 
 
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