Things do not exist as static patterns of value, that is what we make them.

Sent laboriously from an iPhone,
Mark

On Jan 2, 2012, at 8:54 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> Hello Ham,
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Jan 2, 2012, at 2:32 AM, "Ham Priday" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mark, and a Happy New Year to All --
>> 
>> On Friday, 12/23/2011 at 1:17 AM, Mark "118" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Ham,
>>> I am attempting as best I can to not make Marsha feel put upon.
>>> You know my opinion, so I can understand why you are confused.
>>> 
>>> Two things that inherently exist?  How about a dog and a sunflower.
>>> I can provide more if you want, for example you exist inherently,
>>> believe it or not.  There is nothing conventional about these things,
>>> they are all uniquely unconventional.  Show me something
>>> conventional and I will show you a mistake.  I have been where
>>> you are and back.  Trust me.
>> 
>> Marsha has misconstrued Buddhism as a philosophy founded on nihilism, and 
>> this does an injustice to Pirsig's Quality thesis.  I had hoped to see the 
>> promised outline of your ontology over the holidays, which is why this 
>> response is delayed.
>> 
> 
> Not true.  To be a nihilist, would be to believe things do not exist at all.  
> Thingso conventionally exist; they exist as patterns of value; they exist as 
> useful fiction (as in the tale of Nagasena and King Milinda).
> 
> 
> Marsha
> 
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