This is supported by Herbert Guenther 204 (1957, p.144) who adds: 

Experience is the central theme of Buddhism, not theoretical postulation and 
deductive verification. Since no experience occurs more than once and all 
repeated experiences actually are only analogous occurrences, it follows that a 
thing or material substance can only be said to be a series of events 
interpreted as a thing, having no more substantiality than any other series of 
events we may arbitrarily single out. 

After some thought, I think Guenther’s comment is valid as I can’t think of any 
events that are repeated exactly. Moreover, like the concept of ‘self’, there’s 
no absolute objective rule to judge when one event starts and another stops. 
This means that any concept or term is fundamentally indeterminate, imprecise 
and, as time passes, increasingly less useful.



On Mar 21, 2012, at 4:53 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> 
> 5.8.4. THE MOQ, DUKKHA AND AVIDYA (IGNORANCE) It’s fairly obvious from 
> reading Pirsig’s texts that SOM is perceived by him as an example of ignorant 
> thinking. Briefly, this is due to such systems ignoring the reality of 
> Dynamic Quality. Why this is particularly ignorant is explained by the ‘Three 
> Aspects’ of the Cittamatra school of Mahayana Buddhism. 201 
> 
> Williams (1988, p.83) states that the First Aspect refers to the falsifying 
> activity of language which implies independent and permanent existence to 
> things. As Hagen 202 (1997, p.30) notes, one of the most fundamental truths 
> noted by the Buddha is that all aspects of our experience are in constant 
> flux and change. According to the Buddha, when a person ignores this truth 
> they subject themselves to dukkha. 
> 
> _Dukkha_ has been notorious in evading exact translation to English. Hagen 
> (1997, p.25) notes that the word is originally derived from a Sanskrit word 
> referring to a wheel out-of-kilter. 203
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 21, 2012, at 4:49 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "Like Pirsig, Nishida follows the thought of Nagarjuna and rejects the SOM 
>> ‘object logic’ conceptualisation of reality. Instead, Nishida uses the more 
>> Eastern orientated ‘concrete logic’ (or ‘logic of nothingness’) which 
>> perceives reality as holistic and constantly changing; where identities are 
>> momentary (and, therefore, always ‘negating’ themselves). A theme prevalent 
>> in Nishida’s ‘concrete logic’ (as well as the MOQ and much of Buddhist 
>> thought), is the recognition of the ‘self’ as just a useful abstraction."
>> 
>>       (MoQ Textbook) 
>> 
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