Marsha, I believe that much can be apprehended outside of the cognitive process. I would hazard to say that 99% of our apprehension is outside of such cognition. How much does your body go through In an hour? How much of that reaches the cognitive process.
We cannot strictly separate ourselves from the environment, but when we do, that is the cognitive process. When is each molecule part of ourselves or part of the environment (for example)? To claim that all must first pass through the cognitive process before it. Is ours, is to deny the dynamic as part of our experience, in my opinion. But, I may be wrong (again). Sent laboriously from an iPhone, Mark On Mar 23, 2012, at 2:49 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > Craig, > > I am not saying patterns are mere ideas, but can anything at all be > apprehended apart from one's complex of cognitive processes? Not a universe, > not billions-of-years, not humans, and not advanced civilizations. > > > Marsha > > > On Mar 22, 2012, at 1:26 AM, [email protected] wrote: > >> In regard to "ideas, which produce what we know as matter": >> it should be remembered how insignificant humans might be. >> Firstly, the universe existed billions of years before humans & if humans >> demise, might exist billions of years after. >> Secondly, there might be civilizations way more advanced than us, that make >> us look primitive. >> Craig >> >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
