[Marsha]
> I agree there is Quality (Reality), which may be experienced as static 
> (patterned) and/or Dynamic (undifferentiated),
> or from my particular point-of-view patterned experience and unpatterned 
> experience.  Nowhere have I suggested one
> should rely on ONLY unconceptualized  experience, nor is that my 
> understanding of the quotes presented.  

Marsha,
I think we agree.  My only point was that the quote only told half the story of 
the relation between
Reality, conceptual models & personal experience [viz., Reality > conceptual 
models > personal experience.]  
Craig

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