Marsha to Andre:
The query is simply foolish, because you are begging the question with your assumed 'WHO' and 'WHOM' implied. That's not being reasonable.

Andre:
You are being foolish and this is turning into a charade. Who says anything about this 'self' being 'autonomous', 'some independent primary reality', 'concrete reality',? It is an assumption you seem to claim that I am making. This I deny.

I simply asked you: WHO 'found' all those patterns and TO WHOM do they arise?

You seem to present your self as the 'mindfulness' expert(you even distort the DQ/sq of the MOQ because of your experience 'in' it).

So tell me.
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