Ron to Andre:

Thats a great philosophical question Andre, "how do you know 
unity,oneness,whole?"
you said we know them statically, which feels like the right direction. Quality 
then is the
primary explanitory factor in our philosophical theories?and in this way we can 
say that
Quality is one because it is the basis and begining?on which all explanation 
extends.
But That is probably the only way I'd say that Quality is "one".
?

Andre:
I think that's right Ron. In Pirsig's words the MoQ is a high-quality static 
intellectual pattern of value because of it's economy of statement, explanatory 
power (where there wasn't before) and the harmony it produces. Dq/sq is as you 
suggest 'the basis and beginning on which all explanation extends' and I would 
add depends. I tend to see this in the context of Pirsig echoing Abraham Maslow 
on the AHP tapes when he says that we need something bigger than ourselves ( I 
think in response to and reaction against scientism, positivism, populism and 
churchly stuff).

In this same context I prefer to change the notion of man being the measure of 
all things into DQ/sq is the measure of all things. An evolving wherein 'Man' 
is a participant. Like William James insisting that 'the human being is 
continuous with Something More'.

Not sure if this makes sense.

Cheers.


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