> Ron to Andre: > > Thats a great philosophical question Andre, "how do you know > unity,oneness,whole?" > you said we know them statically, which feels like the right direction. > Quality then is the > primary explanitory factor in our philosophical theories?and in this way we > can say that > Quality is one because it is the basis and begining?on which all explanation > extends. > But That is probably the only way I'd say that Quality is "one". > ? > > Andre: > I think that's right Ron. In Pirsig's words the MoQ is a high-quality static > intellectual pattern of value because of it's economy of statement, > explanatory power (where there wasn't before) and the harmony it produces. > Dq/sq is as you suggest 'the basis and beginning on which all explanation > extends' and I would add depends. I tend to see this in the context of Pirsig > echoing Abraham Maslow on the AHP tapes when he says that we need something > bigger than ourselves ( I think in response to and reaction against > scientism, positivism, populism and churchly stuff). > > In this same context I prefer to change the notion of man being the measure > of all things into DQ/sq is the measure of all things. An evolving wherein > 'Man' is a participant. Like William James insisting that 'the human being is > continuous with Something More'.
Ron sez: I think it's ok to suggest it but I'd hold some caution against extending concepts beyond the human experience, and I think thats Protagoras's meaning behind "man is the measure". Like the theory of evolution, it is a high quality idea to consider the human being as continuous with environment and thus with "something more". but it's that dynamic"something more" which tends to get bound with static explanation once the concept of "one" is introduced as a generating principle.It tends to take priority over the good in explanation. . Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
