Hi dmb, Direct experience of what?
Marsha On Jul 7, 2012, at 3:43 PM, david buchanan wrote: > > “When Zen teachers introduce students to nirvana (which the MOQ translates as > the world of pure undifferentiated value) they do not do so with books and > thesis. They sit the students in a room until their clutter of intellectual > knowledge is abandoned (especially values judgments!) and the pure vision of > the newborn infant is regained” (McWatt 2004, 83). > > "Only new-born babes, or men in semi-coma from sleep, drugs, illnesses, or > blows, may be assumed to have an experience pure in the literal sense of that > which is not yet any definite what, tho ready to be all sorts of whats; full > both of oneness and of manyness, but in respects that don't appear; changing > throughout, yet so confusedly that its phases interpenetrate and no points, > either of distinction or ofidentity, can be caught. Pure experience in this > state is but another name for feeling or sensation. But the flux of it no > sooner comes than it tends to fill itself with emphases, and these salient > parts become identified and fixed and abstracted; so that experience now > flows as if shot through with adjectives and nouns and prepositions and > conjunctions. Its purity is only a relative term, meaning the proportional > amount of unverbalized sensation which it still embodies." - William James - > Essays in Radical Empiricism. > > I'd say "emotions" are among the "feelings and sensations" but are relatively > narrow, low-level aspect of experience, i.e. a biological response to Quality > or the body's reaction to direct experience. > > > >> Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 12:00:33 -0700 >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [MD] Is Quality a monism? >> >> Hi DMB and All, >> >> Concepts are static and discontinuous. Reality is dynamic and flowing! >> >> For myself this describes SQ/DQ. There is an aspect of reality that is >> indefinable DQ. And I know the indefinable! How? Emotionally!. Does that >> make women who are closer to babies emotionally more in touch with DQ? It >> seems obvious! >> >> Joe >> >> >> On 7/7/12 11:16 AM, "david buchanan" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> " 'There must always be a discrepancy between concepts and reality, because >>> the former are static and discontinuous while the latter is dynamic and >>> flowing.' Here James had chosen exactly the same words Phaedrus had used for >>> the basic subdivision of the Metaphysics of Quality." >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
