Mark had said:

Perhaps you are saying the same thing, when you say that truth is a
result of harmony.  However, I would twist this slightly and say that
harmony is a result of Truth.  We could indeed say that truth is a
"feeling", but I would go even farther and say that "feeling" is a
result of the manner in which we operate.  We believe what we see.
Or, if not, we believe that it is appropriate to question what we see.
Or, we can also not believe what we see.  This are all viewpoints
which stem from the starting point of truth.  Even the idea that
everything is fraudulent is coming from the starting point of truth,
in that it is true that everything is fraudulent.

This reminds me of the classic paradox where "Everything I tell you is
a lie".  If one contemplates this phrase and goes around in as many
circles as it takes to get out of the circle, one will find that the
logic of such a statement is not important, and dwelling on it misses
the message completely.  In this case, one's personal viewpoint does
not arrise from what somebody tells us (be it a lie about lying) but
rather it arrises from that window of truth we are looking through to
judge such a statement.

Ron replies:
I think we are close enough in thought to say we agree on the subject matter
I can't really add anything or it might introduce a disagreement that wouldlnt
really exist at the moment.

thanks Mark


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