> David wrote to dmb:
> We both agree that truth is a description for high quality patterns.

Marsha wonders:
Is truth then a description for truth?

?

[David responds]
No. It is true that truth exists though. Remembering that everything
is quality - It is a high quality intellectual idea that high quality
intellectual ideas exist. A handy name for them is the shortened
version - truth.

 
>
[Marsha in response to Ron]:
> I don't think of the NOW experience as being a 'supposition'.  I don't think 
> of the NOW 
experience being 'real' or 'true' either.  It is only afterwards such an 
experience is assigned 
an analogous descriptor.

 
{Ron replies}
Well, thats what being a supposition means - that only afterwards it holds as 
analogous,
As "supposed" to be real or true,.. but
lets assume your position and follow it a bit and see if it links up...
The NoW experience is neither "real" or "true", therefore it can niether have 
use or good.
by neccessity it then has no value. Thats a problem straight off.
 
I'm not sure this squares. At least not with RMP's explanations.
 
Now truth being conditional or "hypothetical" in no way undercuts it's truth 
VALuE.
Because it is always intimately part of consequences of the NoW experience. 
Having
consequences it has value therfore it has use and good therefore by necessity 
it must
have a truth and a real-ness.Or what we mean by using those terms For some 
things 
are indeed better than others. This is what we mean when we say they are 
truer or 
posses a "real-ness".
 
Saying that truth or "the true" is conditional begins to ask HOW is it true? 
and THAT
seems to be where your arguement is focused and has traction, in the context of 
conditions.
 
NOW you have some rhetorical power when somone asserts a truth, you inquire into
the conditions of that assertion, that is when truths become many and varied 
some having
equitable value despite the point of view or particular "conditions" it's in 
how the data
is interpreted. (social/ intellectual).
 
 
 
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