Hi Ron, I completely agree with you about the scientific proof of "no God". The manner in which science works is to create an object, and then measure it. How many pounds does God weigh? How many parts make up God?
As with MOQ, I have also proposed that God is a personal relationship with existence. It is not "out there" nor "in here". It is not an object, it is a manner of interpretation. The Church's common God is not God. The Gnostic God is. The Gnostic God is the God of knowing. What is knowing except a manner of interpretation? What is interpretation other than a relationship with existence? Science has no more place in spirituality than spirituality has a place in science. We can view existence through the lens of Scientism (promissory materialism), or we can view the world through the lens of spiritualism (intimate collaboration), or we can view the world through both depending on our needs, but never both at the same time. The ground from which we create patterns cannot be of shifting sands. MOQ presents a third option, that of spiritual rationality. Even the term itself is hard to fathom. But it works. Cheers, Mark On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 8:30 AM, X Acto <[email protected]> wrote: > Ian had submitted: > > > From yesterday's BBC R4 In Our Time - on the ontological argument for god. > > QUOTE > The Ontological Argument is quite a way down the list of subjects with > which I would have thought I would get absorbed. But I did. The notion > of a medieval Benedictine monk from Italy, via France, becoming > Archbishop of Canterbury and sitting down to compose through logic > alone a proof for the existence of God, and both proving it to the > satisfaction of some people and not proving it to the satisfaction of > others, was extremely seductive. ... > > The thing about other worlds of knowledge is that the more you examine > them and the more you get to know them, the more respect you have for > them. It doesn't matter very much whether they seem to be way off-key > when compared with "modern" knowledge or information. > UNQUOTE > > [Ron comments] > I noticed an article that modern science is close to ruling out the > existence > of God. I thought, what a stupid article! What a loaded comment! > > It all depends on what you mean by the term "God" > > Through examination and rendering other worlds of knowledge more > intelligible, we can better grasp it's meaning, it's value. > > .. > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
