Hi Mark,

Oh, and I thought you had it as the metaphysics of meaning?  Or maybe you'd 
have it be a metaphysics dedicated to whatever your automatic writing pulls up 
from your depths.  What you measure to be relevant? Good one!  -  Does a  _host 
of metaphors, metonymies and anthropomorphisms_  sound like some object.  
Either way, all this messy talk of "truths" with its long, broad and deep 
philosophical connotations, denotation and conflict leads me to prefer to use 
RMP's term for objects of knowledge: static patterns of value.  On your 
recommendation it seems to be to stick to the MoQ vernacular when it suits you 
and ignore it as 'only a model' when it doesn't suit you.  I think I'll pay you 
no mind.  


Marsha
 


On Oct 8, 2012, at 7:01 PM, 118 <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ah yes, but that is only truth when it is converted into an object.  Is what 
> our friend N says true?
> 
> In Quality, truth is not some object.  If you want to stick with SOM, be my 
> guest.  I thought this was a metaphysics of Quality.  As such I do not find N 
> to be relevant.  There are other forums for that.
> 
> 
> Mark
> 
> On Oct 8, 2012, at 4:30 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> 
>>    "What then is truth? A movable host of metaphors, metonymies, and; 
>> anthropomorphisms: in short, a sum of human relations which have been 
>> poetically and rhetorically intensified, transferred, and embellished, and 
>> which, after long usage, seem to a people to be fixed, canonical, and 
>> binding. Truths are illusions which we have forgotten are illusions- they 
>> are metaphors that have become worn out and have been drained of sensuous 
>> force, coins which have lost their embossing and are now considered as metal 
>> and no longer as coins.
>> 
>>    "We still do not yet know where the drive for truth comes from. For so 
>> far we have heard only of the duty which society imposes in order to exist: 
>> to be truthful means to employ the usual metaphors. Thus, to express it 
>> morally, this is the duty to lie according to a fixed convention, to lie 
>> with the herd and in a manner binding upon everyone..."
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.davemckay.co.uk/philosophy/nietzsche/nietzsche.php?name=nietzsche.1873.ontruthandliesinanonmoralsense
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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