Marsha, my dear, I thought that one aim of MoQ was to get away from SOM; that it was to criticize customary modes of Western thought. Yet you keep interrupting the forum with quotes directly out of Western metaphysics as is this we're a high school class in western philosophy. Why can't you get beyond that? You have been in this forum far too long for any excuses. If you want to discuss European philosophy, why not go to a forum dedicated to that?
Cheers, Mark On Oct 8, 2012, at 10:59 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Mark, > > Oh, and I thought you had it as the metaphysics of meaning? Or maybe you'd > have it be a metaphysics dedicated to whatever your automatic writing pulls > up from your depths. What you measure to be relevant? Good one! - Does a > _host of metaphors, metonymies and anthropomorphisms_ sound like some > object. Either way, all this messy talk of "truths" with its long, broad and > deep philosophical connotations, denotation and conflict leads me to prefer > to use RMP's term for objects of knowledge: static patterns of value. On > your recommendation it seems to be to stick to the MoQ vernacular when it > suits you and ignore it as 'only a model' when it doesn't suit you. I think > I'll pay you no mind. > > > Marsha > > > > On Oct 8, 2012, at 7:01 PM, 118 <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Ah yes, but that is only truth when it is converted into an object. Is what >> our friend N says true? >> >> In Quality, truth is not some object. If you want to stick with SOM, be my >> guest. I thought this was a metaphysics of Quality. As such I do not find >> N to be relevant. There are other forums for that. >> >> >> Mark >> >> On Oct 8, 2012, at 4:30 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> "What then is truth? A movable host of metaphors, metonymies, and; >>> anthropomorphisms: in short, a sum of human relations which have been >>> poetically and rhetorically intensified, transferred, and embellished, and >>> which, after long usage, seem to a people to be fixed, canonical, and >>> binding. Truths are illusions which we have forgotten are illusions- they >>> are metaphors that have become worn out and have been drained of sensuous >>> force, coins which have lost their embossing and are now considered as >>> metal and no longer as coins. >>> >>> "We still do not yet know where the drive for truth comes from. For so >>> far we have heard only of the duty which society imposes in order to exist: >>> to be truthful means to employ the usual metaphors. Thus, to express it >>> morally, this is the duty to lie according to a fixed convention, to lie >>> with the herd and in a manner binding upon everyone..." >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.davemckay.co.uk/philosophy/nietzsche/nietzsche.php?name=nietzsche.1873.ontruthandliesinanonmoralsense >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
