[dmb] > There is no such thing as a preconceptual [tree]. > It's one of "the forms which we make" and DOES NOT YET exist in > "the basic flux of experience".
"You can't be aware that you've seen a tree until after you've seen the tree, and between the instant of vision and instant of awareness there must be a time lag. . . The tree that you are aware of intellectually, because of that small time lag, is always in the past." (Pirsig, ZAMM) How do we reconcile these 2 quotes. On the one hand, the tree is only in the FUTURE, after experience. On the other hand, the tree is in the past BEFORE intellectual awareness. IMHO there are 2 varieties of the MoQ: anthrocentric MoQ (AMoQ) and pan-experiential MoQ (PMoQ). In AMoQ spov's emerge from the experience of humans. In PMoQ spov's emerge from their own experience: amoebae back away from acid and iron filings value movement toward magnets, without humans being involved. Craig Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
