Hi Dan, Come on Dan you're better than this. So many straw men in there ... I'll just unpick the one paragraph.
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Dan Glover <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Dan: > What you seem to be saying is that if someone is on a low quality journey > we who know better shouldn't criticize them or attempt to point the way to > higher quality ideas. By being 'charitable' we basically don't care whether > or not these folk gain any knowledge about the MOQ. Is that right? > [IG] Strawman1. Obviously not. (1) We do care a great deal, and (2) so much that we show that we care by doing MORE than simply criticise them. > > I will for the moment assume there are those here with a greater grasp of > the MOQ than others. [IG] Obviously again. Strawman2 to suggest I would say otherwise. (In fact I explicitly answered Yes to Jan Anders question on that point.) > Perhaps that isn't charitable but life is like that. > There are experts in certain fields and then there are laypeople who may > possess adequate knowledge and yet they haven't acquired the ability of an > expert who has spent tens of thousands of hours honing their skills. > [IG] "Experts honing their skills" - OK, let's examine that. (Below) > > Are you saying the experts here should just shut up and take a more fluid > integrative approach? > [IG] Strawman3. Shut up AND change their approach? Obviously not, why would I suggest that ? I say change their approach and continue the dialogue (with that changed behaviour). (FYI - Mary Parker-Follett is my main reference for the "integrative" approach, if anyone is interested.) So the worthy point. Experts honing their skills ? We must not confuse expertise in one thing (however assessed) with skills in another. I'll assuming we are talking about expertise in the MoQ, and skills in arguing about it. Quite simply - My subject here has been the balance of argumentation skills and style - aimed at increasing mutual understanding, rather than aimed at winning and defeating. And, "honing" so gives the game away - that Aristotelian knife in hand, magic, just magic. When your only tool is a hammer, all problems look like nails - oh hang on, we've got a quality wrench too, let's use it. David Harding's post articulates this well. Ian Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
