dmb said to Ron:
...But what really kills me is the oblivious evasion of every argument. David H 
did not even address the objection but simply repeated the same mistake more 
emphatically. I said it was asinine and explained why it makes to sense and yet 
it was as if I said nothing at all.  And it's such a stupid, simple mistake. 
Defining conventional and philosophical concepts is not the same as trying to 
define the ineffable, mystical reality. This misconstrues thought itself as a 
sin. ...


djh responded:

Or dmb - I'm not aiming for purity and avoiding sin because I understand that 
even by simply existing I am destroying the ultimately undefined nature of 
reality. ..You seem to think that you can avoid this sin by pretending that 
philosophical concepts are somehow not a destruction of the mystic reality. 



dmb says:
Again, you have not addressed the argument and are once again simply repeating 
yourself ever-more emphatically. What the hell is wrong with you, dude. Are we 
having a conversation or are you just going to repeat the same nonsense over 
and over again?
Address the damn argument or shut up, okay.

Do you even know what it is? You have given me no reason to think you do.

If degeneracy is bringing the higher thing down to a lower thing, then an 
intellectual definition of the mystic reality is degenerate. But the definition 
of a philosophical concept or term is not degenerate because philosophical 
concepts and terms are not the mystic reality. The concepts, the terms and the 
definition are all static intellectual pattens. In fact, this whole forum can 
only ever be static and intellectual. Anyone who thinks we are dealing here 
with the mystic reality itself is deeply, deeply confused.

That's the argument. Deal with it or leave me alone. Your parrot-like 
incorrigibility is boring me to death. Yawn. Snore. Snooze.







                                          
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