> [DJH to DMB]
> You and I are being MYSTICALLY degenerate right now discussing this 
> intellectual thing called the MOQ but of course this degeneracy in the mystic 
> sense is INTELLECTUALLY good. 
> 
> [Arlo]
> Question, do you think, say, either painting and/or motorcycle repair is also 
> a "degenerate" activity?
> 
> Why or why not?

[djh responds to Arlo]

Arlo, much respect.



Both of those activities are mystically degenerate to the extent that they're 
intellectual.  The more intellectual they are - the more mystically degenerate. 

Generally speaking (with obvious exceptions) painting is less intellectual an 
activity than motorcycle repair and so motorcycle repair is more mystically 
degenerate.

But, as I've been explaining to dmb, rather than focus on 'what is degenerate?' 
- a better thing to ask is 'what is good?'.  Both good motorcycle repair and 
good painting as with all good human endeavours - involve a great awareness of 
DQ - and thus in this sense are mystic activities.
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