Hi everyone Dan: None of us are isolated islands.
Eddo: I agree, but from my point of view imho we are interacting islands who individualy have an intrest in staying with their surface above the water. In a social endavour like this forum the interaction between all the separate islands with all the possible changes in their dynamic surfaces is far more complex and is more likely to become chaotic compared to the experienced mechanic with a rigourous static scientific body of knowledge in his relationship with the motorcycle. Dan: We create common sense while working on a motorcycle in the same way we create common sense when working at philosophy or laboring at our jobs or being with our loved ones. If we take care in attending to the moment, we become artists at whatever we do. If we are sloppy in our thinking, it tends to boil over into all other aspects of our life. The wife/husband decides s/he's had enough... the boss might need to have a talk with us... that oil leak we keep trying to fix on our motorcycle keeps on dripping... the posts we contribute here are full of errors, lacking in intellectual integrity, and often contradictory. This is why it is good to remember that in the MOQ ideas come before matter. Take care of your ideas and the rest will follow. Eddo: Hmm......so it is sloppy thinking all the way down. So if you are unsuccessfull you are a sloppy thinker. where did i here this before? Isn't this a typical slogan on the banner of a (Dutch)liberal = (American) Republican = (UK) conservative politician who claims SUCCES IS A CHOICE!!!! Isn't there a limit to the best possible thinking? I can for example think of the landow limit which says something about the maximum information possible to be stored in reaction to maxwell's demon who thought of a cunning plan to reverse entropy. How rational can you be about the value sloppy? Kind regards Eddo 2013/7/31 Dan Glover <[email protected]> > Hello everyone > > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 2:22 AM, Eddo Rats <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi Dan > > > > Dan: > > Motorcycles do not work on themselves. A rational being performs > motorcycle > > maintenance. I am not comparing inorganic patterns to social patterns. I > am > > comparing intellectual patterns to intellectual patterns. > > Eddo: > > In my opinion are intellectual patterns concerning motorcycle maintanance > > less dynamic compared to the intellectual patterns concerning the > coherence > > of this phylosophy forum. > > > Dan: > I tend to disagree with this statement. Both activities are high quality > endeavors in their own right. This is one of the main points in ZMM... that > any activity can become a work of art if enough care is given. > > Eddo: > > > To backup the intellectual quality patterns of > > motorcycle maintanance there is a rigourous body of static emperic > science. > > > > Dan: > This rigorous body of static empiric science is also known as rationality. > > Eddo: > > > To find coherence in this phylosophical forum we can only rely on our own > > personal intellectual patterns and compare those to the ones of our > fellow > > forum members. > > > Dan: > None of us are isolated islands. > > Eddo: > > > We can create common sense by trying to find out what is > > being valued by the whole forum. In other words. It has no emperical > basis, > > only a social consensus basis. The only emperical basis for the MOQ > > phylosophy is the populairity of the novels of RMP which proves that his > > ideas have become a (smal)part of global culture which is in itself a > > consensus basis. > > > > Dan: > We create common sense while working on a motorcycle in the same way we > create common sense when working at philosophy or laboring at our jobs or > being with our loved ones. If we take care in attending to the moment, we > become artists at whatever we do. > > If we are sloppy in our thinking, it tends to boil over into all other > aspects of our life. The wife/husband decides s/he's had enough... the boss > might need to have a talk with us... that oil leak we keep trying to fix on > our motorcycle keeps on dripping... the posts we contribute here are full > of errors, lacking in intellectual integrity, and often contradictory. > > This is why it is good to remember that in the MOQ ideas come before > matter. Take care of your ideas and the rest will follow. > > Thank you, > > Dan > > http://www.danglover.com > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
