Dmb,

As you know, I have been told not to write about my understanding of the 
Intellectual Level.  It was a request made in late 2010 by Horse, which you are 
well aware of.   If the accusation of evasion is based on this, I will admit 
that it is a topic that I avoid.  

I would love to hear your interpretation of the Intellectual Level.  I've asked 
you a number of times to explain it, but you have evaded presenting an 
explanation.  Please explain.  
 
Marsha
 
 
 





On Aug 13, 2013, at 10:28 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> Hi Ian,
> 
> Okay.  Thanks for the thoughtful response.  I understand, but the idea is 
> flawed only by today's physical restrictions and understanding.   Tomorrow, 
> who knows what the restrictions and need might demand.  We now have personal 
> computers, and personal garbage disposals in our sinks. The educational 
> aspect did make an impression on me.  As you stated, seeing is a good thing.  
> Seeing what can be done may lead people to actually demand more to be done: 
> garbage in, betterness out.  I like it...  
> 
> 
> Marsha
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 13, 2013, at 3:52 AM, Ian Glendinning <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Marsha,
>> The innovation is educational, and high quality because it is real,
>> constructed and operated with his own hands understanding the
>> underlying processes, and able to be physically shown to new
>> audiences. The real recycle potential in the waste plastic is made
>> empirically evident. Quality.
>> 
>> Eco-engineering-wise it is flawed and not novel (I was doing this on
>> the kitchen stove 45 years ago). It is very unlikely this is
>> ecologically cost effective at this scale with random plastic
>> feedstock. Questions of efficiencies of the heat source and the
>> process, and emissions of hydrocarbon (and other) gases as well as the
>> condensate, the need for post processing if you want to do more than
>> burn it smokily and inefficiently, health and safety, and more.
>> Pyrolysis plants work on an industrial scale, where the efficiencies
>> and secondary processes can be managed.
>> 
>> So it's good to educate people with their own eyes and hands that
>> recycling is worth pursuing because it really works, but flawed to
>> suggest private self-sufficient processing as the answer.
>> Ian
>> 
>> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 12:00 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Greetings,
>>> 
>>> I am not in a position to respond to the efficiency and feasibility of the 
>>> project.  You may all know more than me on this topic.  It is innovative 
>>> and might be a good way to recycle our piles of plastic refuse.  I heard, 
>>> not to long ago, that most of our recyclables are still dumped in landfills 
>>> or in the ocean.  I was also impressed with what drove him to such a 
>>> solution.  It was caring.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Marsha
>>> 
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