David Harding said to Marsha:
...so, doesn't honest intellectual discussion involve agreement and
disagreement?
Marsha replied:
Using the term 'absolute' was just a conventional defense mechanism used as a
defense against the posters that think they have a right to claim themselves
right and me wrong. Right OR wrong??? Could such a claim be more absolute?
Or calling me anti-intellectual or a bad mystic, an accusation to discredit
what I'm saying; that's just another underhanded way of announcing that they're
right and I'm wrong. Or saying that I fail "to distinguish the cure from the
disease", and then saying it multiple as if to establish it is a proof rather
than a nonsensical statement. That statement is an accusation not an argument,
an unfounded accusation so opaque as to elude meaning.
dmb says:
It's nonsensical to claim that you have failed to distinguish the cure from the
disease? It's an unfounded accusation?
No, the accusation is based on the words you've put into this forum. But you
shamelessly lie about your own position even though it's on the record for
everyone to see. What kind of person does what you are doing, Marsha? Corrupt
politicians, sociopaths and little children do that that. You really ought to
take some time to reflect on your constant stream of dishonest behavior.
Here is a small fraction of the accusation's foundation, which you JUST saw and
which makes your latest round of lies even worse than usual. What is wrong with
you?
Marsha on May 11, 2009:
"Where does it pertain to the conversation we were having? I was defending
that patterns in the Intellectual Level were all of the subject/object variety.
"
Marsha on May 1, 2009:
"Bo is correct in thinking it would be best to describe the Intellectual Level
as the S/O level. It seems to me that all these levels contain patterns that
represent conceptually constructed entities of both the general and particular
type, and that as concepts they are all a product of a post-s/o thinking. And
patterns in the Intellectual Level include the awareness of having separated
subject from object. OMG, that feels good. Now it's time to go off dancing
with a moon shadow for a while."
Marsha on May 4, 2010:
"Intellectual patterns create false boundaries, giving the illusion of
independence, or thingness. For me understand this fourth level to represent a
formalized subject/object level where the subjective is supposedly stripped
from the experience to reveal an objective truth."
Marsha on May 11, 2010
"I understand intellectual patterns to be built on the SOM premise. From the
East: 'For the purpose of discussion you can arrange words and give them
meaning, but the fact remains that all knowledge is a form of ignorance'."
dmb says:
These quotes are more than enough to show that your denials are not even close
to being true. In fact, I think they're more than enough to show that your
pants are on fire. I'm sure there are dozens more in the archives. These quotes
show exactly what I've been saying for years; you have confused the disease
(SOM) with the cure (MOQ). And this confusion leads directly to a virulent form
of anti-intellectualism.
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