Marsha: Are there still areas of inquiry and discovery, or should one blindly swallow dmb's argument of "a volume of material", "the disease" and "the cure"; therefore he is right? Ian asked a question that has not been properly addressed.
[Ron] There are still areas of "discovery" it just means certain people have a more difficult time Posing as philosophers here on the discuss. DmB's explanation is better than yours. He makes a convincing case and I see you doing more to help his case than to tear it down. At some point you are going to have to explain your reasons for your beliefs rather than posting a few quotes out of context. You are going to have to make a clear coherent case as to why and how your interpretation is better than Daves. It should show how your beliefs include the most of Pirsigs ideas into a coherent consistant system of thought. Until you do that, all the rhetorical painting of a rigid tyrant in the world is not going to help your cause. Dave is making a sound case, you are not. Refusing to do so on "dynamic" grounds is a tactic that can not work on an e-mail forum. Using esoteria runs counter the whole enterprise of greater meaning, I can groove on esoteric hippie talk, it can give the feeling of greater meaning on a deeper level, its can be a hip way to rhetorically transfer meaning in such a way as to convince and connect to a specific type of temperment. Unfortunately philosophic scientific explanation, even those expressions that hold value as central in their explanations, are best expressed via clear coherent terms everyone can understand. Until then, all you are ever going to be viewed as here is a vengeful troll that is constantly trying to poop in the punch bowl. The idea is to persuade. .. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
