Marsha said, in response to dmb's observation about her '...confused
anti-intellectualism leaves you rather empty handed, doesn't it?':
No, not when my aim has been to explore RMP's writing, rather than accept your
(David Buchanan) opinions, beliefs, assertions and criticisms as Scripture.
Your paraphrasing has never impressed me. I can accept that you have different
value judgements than mine as a result of our different histories and current
patterns of values, but I find no sound reason to adopt them. RMP said:
"Remember that the central reality of the MOQ
is not an object or a subject or anything else.
It is understood by direct experience only
and not by reasoning of any kind."
Andre:
It's curious to follow this type of response which Lucy delivers time and time
again. The 'central reality of the MOQ' is, as dmb and Pirsig suggest (and a
few other posters here) Dynamic Quality. This cannot be defined but only
pointed to. As Pirsig says: 'Quality is a direct experience independent of and
prior to intellectual abstractions'(LILA, p 66). But we are NOT here discussing
nor exploring DQ. Any discussion and writing when communicated (even to
yourself) is already static quality.
We are here discussing and exploring RMP's writings, i.e. his metaphysical
programme, his MoQ, which is a static intellectual pattern of value.
'Slowly at first, and then with increasing awareness that he was going in a
right direction, Phaedrus' central attention turned away from any further
explanation of Dynamic Quality and turned toward the static patterns
themselves.'(LILA, p 126)
And the result is the MoQ.
What Lucy is exploring is her own interpretation of experience which, as a
result of her different history and current patterns of value (i.e. her
personal development) seems far from adequate. This type of 'consciousness'
will not solve anything. It certainly will not make the world a little better.
It is confused, partial and self-centered; the direct antithesis of Pirsig's
MoQ which leads to a 'going beyond', 'overcoming', 'transcending', 'expansion
of' the narrow, partial, egotistically oriented behaviours and reasoning we are
all too familiar with (just turn on the news tonight).
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