dmb,

And I am not presenting from the 'World of the Buddhas' for I am not a Buddha 
nor do I practice to become a Buddha.  Basically, you don't meditate to become 
anything, you meditate to see how the mind works (its nature, the nature of all 
things). Seeing how the mind works, you gain personal insight into what causes 
suffering (gumption traps) and that abandoning the cause will end that gumption 
traps and promote peace-of-mind & serenity. That's all. 

"Peace of mind isn't at all superficial, really,'' I expound. ``It's the whole 
thing. That which produces it is good maintenance; that which disturbs it is 
poor maintenance. What we call workability of the machine is just an 
objectification of this peace of mind. The ultimate test's always your own 
serenity. If you don't have this when you start and maintain it while you're 
working you're likely to build your personal problems right into the machine 
itself."'' 
      (RMP, 'ZAMM', Chapter 14) 


Marsha
 


On Sep 3, 2013, at 3:23 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:

dmb,

On Sep 2, 2013, at 2:07 PM, david buchanan <[email protected]> wrote:

> Direct experience is neither true nor false. What we SAY about experience can 
> be true or false. The concepts we use can agree with experience or not. But 
> direct experience itself is independent of and prior to language. It doesn't 
> even make sense to say that meditation or mindfulness "agrees with 
> experience" because it is experience.

Marsha:
I have there to be a difference between direct perceptional experience and 
unpatterned (DQ) experiences.  There are all types of meditation practices.  
The book 'Mindfulness in Plain English' is an excellent source of information.  
Would you like to sit and watch your thoughts, those thoughts (patterns) that 
conceptually construct your world?  

"Mindfulness is awareness of change. It is observing the passing flow of 
experience. It is watching things as they are changing. it is seeing the birth, 
growth, and maturity of all phenomena. It is watching phenomena decay and die. 
Mindfulness is watching things moment by moment, continuously. It is observing 
all phenomena -- physical, mental or emotional -- whatever is presently taking 
place in the mind. One just sits back and watches the show. Mindfulness is the 
observance of the basic nature of each passing phenomenon. It is watching the 
thing arising and passing away. It is seeing how that thing makes us feel and 
how we react to it. It is observing how it affects others. In Mindfulness, one 
is an unbiased observer whose sole job is to keep track of the constantly 
passing show of the universe within."

How do you explain radical empiricism?  


Marsha 
 
 
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