dmb,

Regarding illusion, yes, illusory in the sense of having independent or 
absolute existence.  I have explained this many times, and yes, I'm sticking to 
it.
 
 
Marsha 





On Sep 9, 2013, at 11:43 PM, david buchanan <[email protected]> wrote:

> What's striking about DT's bizarre mockery is that it actually mocks Marsha's 
> anti-intellectual nihilism but does not touch the MOQ. Marsha likes to paint 
> all static knowledge as hypothetical, as illusions, as reifications and 
> falsifications, as wispy unrealities - but that's exactly what my criticisms 
> are aimed at BECAUSE it's a gross distortion of Pirsig's picture. If Marsha's 
> picture were true, child abuse would be an illusion, war and genocide is just 
> hypothetical, rape and murder are just reified projections or something. 
> That's what I mean by nihilism! Nothing matters in Marsha's weird world. It's 
> morally repugnant. Satan's lawyer refused to take the case. But that's 
> Marsha's story and she's sticking to it. 
> 
> Way to pick sides, Dave. You obviously have excellent taste in philosophies. 
> 
> 
>> [Arlo previously]
>> Marsha is a 'child' in your analogy?
>> 
>> [Dave T]
>> Oops, that's right within the static levels of MoQ all knowledge, all words, 
>> all communications are only analogies.  "Child,"&"child abuser" are only 
>> analogies therefore child abuse under the MoQ never happens in reality.
>> 
>> [Arlo]
>> ?? Wow. Yeah, that's exactly what I was saying, thanks.
>> 
>> Ron:
>> Wow is right! where the hell did THAT come from.  Can we say e-v-a-s-i-o-n ?
>> 
>> If this post came with usda daily allowance percentages:
>> 
>> subjectmatter  0%
>> rhetorical spin 80%
>> emotional rants 20%
>> 
>> *serving size 4 posts a day
>> 
>> Contains less than 2% of the daily allowance of rational discourse.
>> 
>> if accidentally swallowed contact poison control hotline
> 
> 
> 
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