David,

On Sep 11, 2013, at 10:00 AM, David Harding <[email protected]> wrote:


>>>>>>> [djh]
>>>>>>> Logic has its valuable use beyond our own personal experience and can 
>>>>>>> point to us things which are valuable which we might not have 
>>>>>>> experienced otherwise.  This is why logic on this discussion board is 
>>>>>>> good.  This is why explaining things and talking through things on this 
>>>>>>> discussion board is good.  Because if we do these things then we can 
>>>>>>> discover things which are good which we might not have experienced 
>>>>>>> otherwise.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Marsha:
>>>>>> Are you talking about formal logic or some kind of common sense?  I have 
>>>>>> never said or thought discussions were bad.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> [djh]
>>>>> Again, I'm talking about the everyday logic which we all use including in 
>>>>> this discussion right now.  
>>>> 
>>>> Common sense?  Well, you've heard what Einstein said:  "Common sense is 
>>>> the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen."
>>> 
>>> [djh]
>>> Right. Do away with common sense though and what are you?
>> 
>> 
>> I didn't suggest "doing away" with common sense, but it would be beneficial 
>> to remember they are also, as Einstein proclaims "collection of prejudices". 
>>   
> 
> [djh]
> That's fine I get that - but it's a double edged sword - for if we only 
> dismiss it as a 'collection of prejudices' then doing so neglects the value 
> of common sense.  

Marsha:
I never suggested dismissing anything; I said it would be beneficial to 
remember that common sense can also be described as a "collection of 
prejudices".   

> However; logic isn't common sense.  Logic is its own distinct intellectual 
> thing which follows its own rules regardless of the fact that it is built out 
> of the mythos.  Furthermore, it's not a question of formal logic vs common 
> sense.  You've done a philosophical logic 101 class.  
> Even casual conversations include their own logic with their own premises and 
> conclusions.

I have had courses in both formal logic and critical thinking.  I don't 
recognize either in your statement.  Most of what people consider logic is 
built backwards, rather than built on sound premises.  It's more likely 
conclusions justified by whatever seems to work.  


Marsha




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