Hi Joe,

I'd say meditation is the tuning fork.  To practice meditation/mindfulness is 
to pursue Quality, both Dynamic and static, beyond the limitations of language. 
 You don't meditate to become anything, you meditate to see how value and mind 
and body interact (its nature, the nature of self and all things). Seeing how 
they relate to each other, you gain personal insight into what causes gumption 
traps (suffering) and that abandoning the cause will end those traps and the 
accompanying suffering. 


Marsha

> On Nov 5, 2013, at 2:38 PM, Joseph  Maurer <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi MarshaV and All,
> 
> Out of tune!!!. The reality of DQ/SQ!
> 
> I do not know that there is a tuning fork for DQ/SQ?  Definition is out of
> tune in DQ/SQ metaphysics.  I surmise that there must be an understanding of
> DQ/SQ that is not out of tune beyond definition since metaphysics are king..
> The search continues for the in tune-warped reality DQ/SQ.  I experience the
> indefinable!
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
>> On 1sq1/4/13 11:42 PM, "MarshaV" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> For this, for everything, we are out of tune.
> 
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