Marsha asked Ron:
I posted the youtube presentation of the entire (read aloud) essay. You
may check my original post and I will post it again so you might be a
good listener. So what is your complaint?
Andre:
The part you did NOT bother to quote Marsha. And you know full well what
Ron is hinting at. It's another variation on your all too familiar Lucy
tricks. The role the intellectual level plays as being seen as the
'unfolding of intuition'...the generator of truth:
'It is the advent of truth into the?world, a form of thought now, for the first
time, bursting into the?universe, a child of the old eternal soul, a piece of
genuine and?immeasurable greatness.''
It confirms your anti-intellectual attitude which YOU still consider
full of trappings like reification and objectification (hence your
'static' being 'ever-changing'...as a way out of your conviction that
the intellectual level IS SOM). That part which ought to be
'killed'...taken from Pirsig's MoQ which, in HIS hands is as solid as a
rock and in YOUR hands as brittle as the cast-iron seats of the Victorians.
This is entirely YOUR weakness in the arguments (I won't call it a
discussion because you never discuss things here on this discuss!)
That is why you still see the dropping of the atomic bombs on Hiroshima
and Nagasaki as illusory. Why you see the holocaust as illusory. SHAME
on you.
To you static patterns of value have no meaning or relevance. They do
not have importance nor a role to play in the evolutionary unfolding. No
role in the ascension nor descension ( in Wilber's terms)
It is a gross betrayal of DQ/sq which you prove, time and again, to
completely misunderstand and misconstrue because of this confusion. You
talk about 'dependent arising' whilst you fail to realize the
significance of this concept...the intimate play with each other
yet.....sq is (like) an illusion. Therefore DQ is (like)an illusion as
well (what the fuck is the difference between 'like an illusion' and
'illusion'). The question is very simple but do not bother to answer it.
It will be so much more bullshit of which you are new-aged-ly full.
Your retort and so called question to Ron betray this attitude and
confusion...always leaving open your Lucy slithering tactics. You will
not mend your ways. Your attitude on this discuss is deplorable.
Keep your own soul-searching to yourself Marsha and wander around in
your own Versaille-room full of mirrors...the favourite of you know who.
You do not belong on this discuss. Perhaps you should devote your
ego-centered energies on the Patanjali-site twittering section.
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