Andre,  

The entire essay was too long to post. The particular paragraph that was posted 
was a quote, by Emerson, from the Intellect Essay, which mentions "spontaneous" 
that as you can see reflects the topic in the subject line.  I've enjoyed 
reading Emerson, I enjoyed this essay, but perhaps you would have chosen a 
different paragraph, a different topic, or maybe a different essay or different 
author.  Such is life!   


Marsha


> On Nov 30, 2013, at 2:29 PM, Andre <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Marsha asked Ron:
> I posted the youtube presentation of the entire (read aloud) essay. You may 
> check my original post and I will post it again so you might be a good 
> listener. So what is your complaint?
> 
> Andre:
> The part you did NOT bother to quote Marsha. And you know full well what Ron 
> is hinting at. It's another variation on your all too familiar Lucy tricks. 
> The role the intellectual level plays as being seen as the 'unfolding of 
> intuition'...the generator of truth:
> 
> 'It is the advent of truth into the?world, a form of thought now, for the 
> first time, bursting into the?universe, a child of the old eternal soul, a 
> piece of genuine and?immeasurable greatness.''
> 
> It confirms your anti-intellectual attitude which YOU still consider full of 
> trappings like reification and objectification (hence your 'static' being 
> 'ever-changing'...as a way out of your conviction that the intellectual level 
> IS SOM). That part which ought to be 'killed'...taken from Pirsig's MoQ 
> which, in HIS hands is as solid as a rock and in YOUR hands as brittle as the 
> cast-iron seats of the Victorians.
> 
> This is entirely YOUR weakness in the arguments (I won't call it a discussion 
> because you never discuss things here on this discuss!)
> 
> That is why you still see the dropping of the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and 
> Nagasaki as illusory. Why you see the holocaust as illusory. SHAME on you.
> 
> To you static patterns of value have no meaning or relevance. They do not 
> have importance nor a role to play in the evolutionary unfolding. No role in 
> the ascension nor descension ( in Wilber's terms)
> 
> It is a gross betrayal of DQ/sq which you prove, time and again, to 
> completely misunderstand and misconstrue because of this confusion. You talk 
> about 'dependent arising' whilst you fail to realize the significance of this 
> concept...the intimate play with each other yet.....sq is (like) an illusion. 
> Therefore DQ is (like)an illusion as well (what the fuck is the difference 
> between 'like an illusion' and 'illusion'). The question is very simple but 
> do not bother to answer it. It will be so much more bullshit of which you are 
> new-aged-ly full.
> 
> Your retort and so called question to Ron betray this attitude and 
> confusion...always leaving open your Lucy slithering tactics. You will not 
> mend your ways. Your attitude on this discuss is deplorable.
> 
> Keep your own soul-searching to yourself Marsha and wander around in your own 
> Versaille-room full of mirrors...the favourite of you know who. You do not 
> belong on this discuss. Perhaps you should devote your ego-centered energies 
> on the Patanjali-site twittering section.



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