Dave B., Well Ian didn't think it was so bad.
On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 1:40 PM, david <[email protected]> wrote: > John said to Ian: > To be perfectly honest, I snagged the definition from Wiki on > Philosophical Realism and substituted SOM for the term everywhere it > appeared in the wiki article. My aim, as you can imagine, was to get some > feedback on the idea that SOM and Philosophical Realism are one and the > same. Are they? > > > dmb says: > No, they are not the same. SOM is much broader and includes all Modern > philosophies. The rationalists and idealists put all the emphasis on the > subjective side while the empiricists and realists put the emphasis on the > objective side. If you're going to plagiarize a definition from Wikipedia, > you'd get much closer to SOM by stealing the Wikipedia article on dualism, > particularly Cartesian dualism or ontological dualism. > > You can simply declare that you understand, John, or you can show your > understanding by saying something about it that makes sense. I realize that > this requirement for you to actually know things is tyrannical and > oppressive for a free-spirit like yourself but that's just how the game is > played. Unless this is all just typing practice or something, you really > should try to understand the concepts being discussed or remain silent. > > > Does showing I know things mean cutting and pasting other people's ideas? And I don't see how I can possibly gain understanding or correction on my mistakes if I remain silent. Is this how you run classes? It sounds sorta familiar... "Sir, we are not here to learn what you think!" hissed the Professor of Philosophy. Like acid. "We are here to learn what Pirsig thinks!" Straight in the face. "When we wish to learn what you think we will assign a course in the subject!" According to the MoQ gospel: "Great Universities proceeded in a Hegelian fashion and any school which could not accept a thesis contradicting its fundamental tenets was in a rut. This, Phædrus claimed, was the thesis the University of Chicago was waiting for" Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
