Conversely:
http://www.psybertron.org/?p=6729
Ian

On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 8:37 PM, John Carl <[email protected]> wrote:
> In June 2001, George W. Bush and Vladimir Putin ended their first
> face-to-face meeting with an outdoor news conference beneath a craggy
> mountaintop in Slovenia. "Is this a man that Americans can trust?"  Bush
> was asked, as Putin glared at the reporter.
>
> "Yes," Bush 
> replied<http://edition.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe/06/18/bush.putin.transcript/>,
> before allowing Putin to answer a separate question. A few minutes later,
> the American president elaborated: "I looked the man in the eye. I found
> him to be very straightforward and trustworthy. We had a very good
> dialogue. I was able to get a sense of his soul, a man deeply committed to
> his country and the best interests of his country," Bush said, adding a few
> sentence later, "I wouldn't have invited him to my ranch if I didn't trust
> him."
> Putin hadn't the experience then that he has now and by that I don't mean
> he hadn't enough gravitas.  Any leader of the largest country on earth has
> automatic gravitas and Russia's got the Real Estate.  Power comes and goes
> but Acreage is permanent.
>
> No, I mean Putin hadn't  had yet the experience of seeing America's
> reactions and actions in this post-war age.  To the extent the US "won" the
> cold war, a certain power was given to wield her  powerful economic system
> toward a better world of open democratic freedom.   I'm sure the world was
> watching to see if, in fact, the nation could live up to it's purported
> ideals.  But if the US could ask for a less-likely representative of our
> collective love of freedom, than George (W) Bush,  It would have been
> somebody else from Texas.  Texas as a regional power of North America flies
> a unique flag.  Unlike all the other states, except California,  Texas was
> first it's own Republic.  A republic that had had more fighting and fiercer
> Indians and a constant enemy just over the border and cut-throat capitalism
> to outsiders and a fierce loyalty to friends.    The cold war was ended by
> a Californian - but the opportunities gained, for a world worth living in,
> were all lost by his vice president's scion - that Texas Jungle Capitalism
> combined with Yankee ingenuity.  I was especially sensitive when all this
> happened because as a Californian, I'd felt the harsh end of the stick with
> Texas on the other end beating us like a gong.  The California electricity
> crisis, a situation in which the United States state of California had a
> shortage of electricity supply caused by market manipulations, illegal
> shutdowns of pipelines by the Texas energy consortium Enron, and capped
> retail electricity prices.
>
> We in California couldn't do a FERCing thing about it since W he won the
> election  and the regulatory board of the Federal Energy Regulation
> Committee  all understood - there's a new sheriff in town.  Nobody
> remembers much about 2001 except 9-11, but that attack showed up the
> shenanigans of companies like Enron and then the corruption of companies
> like Halliburton.  Not that it did any permanent harm to Halliburton.  They
> did pretty well off the wars, I'd say. and that process you've heard
> about?  Fracking?  That's a Halliburton invention.
>
> Such openly naked grabs for power are obvious to anybody who has not been
> brain-washed by the corporate media conglomerates and Putin isn't stupid.
> The thing called  "moral license" is given by example.  "Do as I say, not
> as I do" does not happen in the real world.   Russians always love a strong
> leader and the more Putin gets in the face of Americans the more they love
> him for expressing their disappointment in America's politics and
> self-serving foreign policies.  Or I should say, coporate -interest-
> serving.  And since America does enjoy an enviable material comfort - which
> all people desire, she inspires emulation of her worst traits and little
> understanding the true underpinnings of freedom and democracy.
>
> To a thinking man, able to read the signs, America has suffered a huge
> moral failure and I mean that in the MoQ meaning of the word.  People who
> worship social celebrity and denigrate intellectual pursuits, like
> philosophy, are actually following a philosophy.  A social-oriented
> philosophy, altho they don't know it.  At the root of this Socially
> -oriented  philosophy lies (!)  A Subject/Object Metaphysics which helps
> guide a world filled with subjects to authority  who spend their mental
> energy competing for objects.   In this world, all intellectual pursuit is
> pragmatic - aimed at social goals.   Such naked self-interest is catching.
> When you show self-interest to be your guiding motive, you inspire others
> to do the same - and quickly you have destructive conflicts between
> competing states and  that is in nobody's interest.   America has become an
> ineffectual giant.  Sure, she can roar and swat at terrorist flies, but she
> can't do anything effective to help bring a better world.  Her words are
> empty and her emotions, shallow.  I fear a reaction.  I fear Obama was all
> along, a mere scapegoat and next election it's going to be another Texan
> and this time its going to be a complete disaster - like when LBJ told the
> boys going to Vietnam, in effect, "you good ole boys come back and we'll
> nail  them coon's skin up on the wall"
>
>  Putin learned the lesson of the Texan power policies.  He owns the NatGas
> supply that runs throughout Europe and with his hand on the shut-off valve,
> he gets his way - especially within the formerly Soviet States.  He's
> operating by new rules.  If the normal rules of war are no longer
> expedient, throw them out.  the important thing is results and whatever it
> takes to get me and my people in power, is good.     Once Ukraine is back
> in the fold, Belarus would be next.  Belarus would love to rejoin Russia
> and trade "Belarusian kisses for Russian Oil"  and from then on,   all it
> would need is some sort of popular uprising, soon to be supported by
> Russian tanks and state by state and empire would be rebuilt.    Nobody
> would care.  Or if they cared, it would pass quickly.  Once the gruesome
> videos are switched to another showing, people forget the past.
>
> Once upon a time, this country broke up the monopoly of the railroad.
> 1988, Texas bought SP and controlled the rails.  In 1982, the country broke
> up the monopoly of ATT over then nation's phone system and slowly Southen
> Bell bought up the baby bells one by one and then finally the old parent
> company - ATT. A monopoly reborn.  But now in the hand of Texas.
>
> I'm just glad Texas doesn't own many tanks and it's pretty easy to quickly
> block the few passes over the Sierras.  We're safe for now, but I don't
> hold out much hope for Ukraine.
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