Ian, Did you click on the link in my article? Pay especial attention to Putin's words in the press conference - he made some excellent points that should have been more heeded by the American people, to wit:
Putin: And taking into account the fact that the United States and the Russian Federation, as no one else, as no other country of the world, have accumulated huge amounts of nuclear weapons, weapons of mass destruction, we bear a special responsibility for maintaining common peace and security in the world -- for building a new architecture of security in the world. On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:15 AM, Ian Glendinning <[email protected]>wrote: > Conversely: > http://www.psybertron.org/?p=6729 > Ian > > On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 8:37 PM, John Carl <[email protected]> wrote: > > In June 2001, George W. Bush and Vladimir Putin ended their first > > face-to-face meeting with an outdoor news conference beneath a craggy > > mountaintop in Slovenia. "Is this a man that Americans can trust?" Bush > > was asked, as Putin glared at the reporter. > > > > "Yes," Bush replied< > http://edition.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe/06/18/bush.putin.transcript/>, > > before allowing Putin to answer a separate question. A few minutes later, > > the American president elaborated: "I looked the man in the eye. I found > > him to be very straightforward and trustworthy. We had a very good > > dialogue. I was able to get a sense of his soul, a man deeply committed > to > > his country and the best interests of his country," Bush said, adding a > few > > sentence later, "I wouldn't have invited him to my ranch if I didn't > trust > > him." > > Putin hadn't the experience then that he has now and by that I don't mean > > he hadn't enough gravitas. Any leader of the largest country on earth > has > > automatic gravitas and Russia's got the Real Estate. Power comes and > goes > > but Acreage is permanent. > > > > No, I mean Putin hadn't had yet the experience of seeing America's > > reactions and actions in this post-war age. To the extent the US "won" > the > > cold war, a certain power was given to wield her powerful economic > system > > toward a better world of open democratic freedom. I'm sure the world > was > > watching to see if, in fact, the nation could live up to it's purported > > ideals. But if the US could ask for a less-likely representative of our > > collective love of freedom, than George (W) Bush, It would have been > > somebody else from Texas. Texas as a regional power of North America > flies > > a unique flag. Unlike all the other states, except California, Texas > was > > first it's own Republic. A republic that had had more fighting and > fiercer > > Indians and a constant enemy just over the border and cut-throat > capitalism > > to outsiders and a fierce loyalty to friends. The cold war was ended > by > > a Californian - but the opportunities gained, for a world worth living > in, > > were all lost by his vice president's scion - that Texas Jungle > Capitalism > > combined with Yankee ingenuity. I was especially sensitive when all this > > happened because as a Californian, I'd felt the harsh end of the stick > with > > Texas on the other end beating us like a gong. The California > electricity > > crisis, a situation in which the United States state of California had a > > shortage of electricity supply caused by market manipulations, illegal > > shutdowns of pipelines by the Texas energy consortium Enron, and capped > > retail electricity prices. > > > > We in California couldn't do a FERCing thing about it since W he won the > > election and the regulatory board of the Federal Energy Regulation > > Committee all understood - there's a new sheriff in town. Nobody > > remembers much about 2001 except 9-11, but that attack showed up the > > shenanigans of companies like Enron and then the corruption of companies > > like Halliburton. Not that it did any permanent harm to Halliburton. > They > > did pretty well off the wars, I'd say. and that process you've heard > > about? Fracking? That's a Halliburton invention. > > > > Such openly naked grabs for power are obvious to anybody who has not been > > brain-washed by the corporate media conglomerates and Putin isn't stupid. > > The thing called "moral license" is given by example. "Do as I say, not > > as I do" does not happen in the real world. Russians always love a > strong > > leader and the more Putin gets in the face of Americans the more they > love > > him for expressing their disappointment in America's politics and > > self-serving foreign policies. Or I should say, coporate -interest- > > serving. And since America does enjoy an enviable material comfort - > which > > all people desire, she inspires emulation of her worst traits and little > > understanding the true underpinnings of freedom and democracy. > > > > To a thinking man, able to read the signs, America has suffered a huge > > moral failure and I mean that in the MoQ meaning of the word. People who > > worship social celebrity and denigrate intellectual pursuits, like > > philosophy, are actually following a philosophy. A social-oriented > > philosophy, altho they don't know it. At the root of this Socially > > -oriented philosophy lies (!) A Subject/Object Metaphysics which helps > > guide a world filled with subjects to authority who spend their mental > > energy competing for objects. In this world, all intellectual pursuit > is > > pragmatic - aimed at social goals. Such naked self-interest is > catching. > > When you show self-interest to be your guiding motive, you inspire others > > to do the same - and quickly you have destructive conflicts between > > competing states and that is in nobody's interest. America has become > an > > ineffectual giant. Sure, she can roar and swat at terrorist flies, but > she > > can't do anything effective to help bring a better world. Her words are > > empty and her emotions, shallow. I fear a reaction. I fear Obama was > all > > along, a mere scapegoat and next election it's going to be another Texan > > and this time its going to be a complete disaster - like when LBJ told > the > > boys going to Vietnam, in effect, "you good ole boys come back and we'll > > nail them coon's skin up on the wall" > > > > Putin learned the lesson of the Texan power policies. He owns the > NatGas > > supply that runs throughout Europe and with his hand on the shut-off > valve, > > he gets his way - especially within the formerly Soviet States. He's > > operating by new rules. If the normal rules of war are no longer > > expedient, throw them out. the important thing is results and whatever > it > > takes to get me and my people in power, is good. Once Ukraine is back > > in the fold, Belarus would be next. Belarus would love to rejoin Russia > > and trade "Belarusian kisses for Russian Oil" and from then on, all it > > would need is some sort of popular uprising, soon to be supported by > > Russian tanks and state by state and empire would be rebuilt. Nobody > > would care. Or if they cared, it would pass quickly. Once the gruesome > > videos are switched to another showing, people forget the past. > > > > Once upon a time, this country broke up the monopoly of the railroad. > > 1988, Texas bought SP and controlled the rails. In 1982, the country > broke > > up the monopoly of ATT over then nation's phone system and slowly Southen > > Bell bought up the baby bells one by one and then finally the old parent > > company - ATT. A monopoly reborn. But now in the hand of Texas. > > > > I'm just glad Texas doesn't own many tanks and it's pretty easy to > quickly > > block the few passes over the Sierras. We're safe for now, but I don't > > hold out much hope for Ukraine. > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
