Ant, Wow, thanks! I will certainly take that advice and read Reimer first. Thank you for the link. Ron
> On Jun 26, 2014, at 2:18 AM, Ant McWatt <[email protected]> wrote: > > Friends, Romans, Countrymen! > > I would strongly advise anyone who is thinking of starting an MOQ > reconstruction model for education that they read Everett W. Reimer's classic > text "School is Dead; An Essay on Alternatives in Education" BEFORE Dewey and > Freire because Reimer puts these two great educationalists in CONTEXT. It > can be downloaded for free from: > > www.arvindguptatoys.com/arvindgupta/dead.pdf > > Reimer's text took me only about four hours to read but is stacked full of > new progressive ideas (unsurprizingly it was written in the late 1960s!) that > will make for a refreshing read for anyone disillusioned with the direction > of modern education (especially in North America and Western Europe) over the > last 150 years and especially the last forty. > > In fact, Reimer's "School is Dead" book will be forming the basis of the new > MOQ College of Arts which will be enrolling its first students towards the > end of this year (in Liverpool). Paulo Freire is mentioned throughout > Reimer's book so his ideas about education (though Dewey and, of course, > Pirsig's too) will be the "guiding lynchpins" about how this new university > will operate. > > Reimer initially thought in the 1950s - with his friend & colleague Ivan > Illich - that everyone in the world should go to school but after spending > time - on the ground so to speak - in Latin America, eventually realised the > stupity of such a project in so many ways. For a start, there simply is not > enough resources in the world to give every child a SCHOOL education from 5 > to 18 and most GENUINE, USEFUL education is actually done at home and at work > i.e. in practice. > > Schools and universities also tend to support the status quo (see how they > responded in Nazi Germany compared to the more independent Churches) and - > just like right-wingers who ignorantly exploit the poor and marginalised - > don't do many children much good in the long run. Why do you think it's a > criminal offence in many countries - such as England - for NOT sending your > child/ren to school? > > Think about it!!! > > Ant > > ------------------------------ > > > I used to get mad at my school > > The teachers who taught me weren't cool > > You're holding me down, turning me round > > Filling me up with your rules (...foolish rules) > > > > [But] I've got to admit it's getting better > > A little better all the time (It can't get much worse) > > I have to admit it's getting better > > It's getting better since YOU'VE been mine... > > (Lennon-McCartney, Northern Songs, 1967) > > > On Jun 23, 2014, at 8:01 AM, ARLO JAMES BENSINGER JR <[email protected]> wrote: > > I've mentioned Freire several times over the years. The perennial and, now, > generational "educational crisis" in America, I believe, results from a > societal inability to answer the fundamental question "why educate?" We talk > about testing and assessment and standards but few can articulate a 'purpose' > behind the structure, and those that can (and do) are those that have come to > see education as a servant to capitalism; the goal of education is to meet > labor demands. > > Ron Kulp responded June 24th: > > I had thought so, the more I develop a clearer understanding of Pragmatism > and RMP's MOQ, the more it becomes evident that the primary thrust and > direction of that solution space lies in critical pedagogy. > > I am currently still in the discovery stage and it's pleasing to see that > this is a subject that has some history here. To me, this is what a MOQ > reconstruction Model looks like. > > > > . > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
