[Arlo] > I don't worry about demanding every possible non-human activity be absolutely defined out of the social level.
That's not what Pirsig or I are doing. Instead he and I are looking for criteria for the 3rd level and then seeing if it applies only to humans or also to non-humans. [Arlo] > Bringing up rudimentary non-human social patterns is like bringing up algae > or lichen when you are talking about the > complexity of human physiology. Agreed--that's why my example was about humans. Perhaps we should look for examples of social immorality: I promise to meet you, but don't meet up. We agree to meet, but I don't meet up. I intend to meet you (but don't promise to) & I realize you recognize my intention, but don't meet up. You expect me to meet you and I realize this, but I don't meet up. I intend to meet you, but don't meet up. Which of these are humans but not animals capable of? Which of these are 3rd level & which are merely 2nd level? Craig > >>Craig >>> >>> >> >> > > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
