Ron, On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Ron Kulp <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> On Dec 23, 2014, at 12:02 AM, Dan Glover <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Ron: >>> Shakespeare answered >>> That it is also the fear of death that makes it better to be than not to be. >>> Then we have Socrates that asks >>> What it means to lead a Good life >> >> Dan: >> What was his answer? And does leading a good life equate with knowing >> that a life is worthwhile? > > Ron replies: > Interesting question. Socrates broke > It down in much the same way RMP > Did, physically (moderation) socially > (Goodwill) and intellectually (wisdom) > Which he boils down to the highest pleasure. It seems to me that Socrates > associates leading a good > Life as leading a pleasing life.
Dan: Pleasing in what fashion? From what I gather, Socrates was pretty much an itinerant beggar. He lived like a pauper in the midst of plenty. He was an usurper of youth. He died a criminal by his own admission. Are we to take the word of such a man that his life was pleasing? If so, why did he throw it away so frivolously? Or did he? >Ron: > With that being said, I would venture > To project that a pleasing life would > Be a worthwhile life. Dan: To the Nazis, the holocaust was a pleasing life. To the followers of the Islamic State, the sharia is a pleasing life. I somehow doubt any of us here would consider those lifestyles as anything worthwhile. Mind you, I'm not arguing with you so much as seeking a clear solution to what constitutes a worthwhile life. Is there anything that we can point to universally in that regard? Or are we all on our own when it comes to discovering what really turns our crank? >Ron: > Therefore "knowing" for Socrates > Is in the empirical pleasing sense of artistic Practice not an abstract, > universal concept by which we measure a life. Dan: But what about our life? Was Socrates saying we're all artists in our own way? Or is that artistry found in the practice no matter how mundane? >Ron: > And I think that makes a distinct difference > In ones outlook. Dan: Possibly. The more personal the story the greater impact it seems to have on the reader. Is that the power of ZMM? I think so. Thanks, Ron. Dan http://www.danglover.com Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
